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Re: XKE Sway Bar (wasPleasant Suprise)

Warren Hansen
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: HI! All,

: I just dropped by to see what all the excitment was about, well it's

: nice to see such a list,longtime coming.

: I would be pleased to be part of this List & contribute what I can

: to hopefully help Jag enthusiasts.

: Kind Regards

: Terry Handley

: Bathurst Australia

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Terry, g'day Mate!

It's a pleasure to see you pop up here! (They'll have to change the name from Jaguar Clubs of North America to Jaguar Clubs of the

Whole World if this sort of thing keeps up!)

I was thinking of you the other day, and wondering what your take would be on running an E-Type without the rear anti-roll bar when the car was set up with uprated torsion bars and springs and a heavier front anti-roll bar. I took mine off a few months ago, and vaccilate between thinking it's an improvement, and wondering whether I've made a mistake. Any thoughts?

Regards,

Warren Hansen

70 FHC "Silver Bolide"




Re: XKE Sway Bar (wasPleasant Suprise)

Terry Handley
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forum user since

 

HI! Warren,

Have not chatted with you for some time, guess you have been enjoying another List.

Many Jag enthusiast all over the world but you Americans have probably the most and you certainly now have a great List for which all true enthusiasts can enjoy.

I'm hoping to get over sometime and try and meet all those I have gotten to know from various Lists, how could one do that, maybe a Jag Shoot Out @ .... where would be a central part of the US ?

Removal of the rear Sway Bar, funny you should raise that, I have just refitted a Rear Sway Bar to our E Race Coupe, I remember a couple of years ago suggesting to Listers on another List that they should try removing the rear sway bar.... Well that was received with some sceptism.

It really depends on many things as to if one should or should not,I can't come up with any Rocket Science stuff right now but in short the Rear Anti Sway Bar works fine on standard cars with std. wheels but once one starts upgrading the suspension on an E type things change dramatically & not always for the best as one would assume by fitting lot's of shiny bits to the suspension.

Mostly I have found that by removing the anti sway bar from the rear of an E Type with upto 285 real Hp, Stiffer Front Torsion Bars and uprated Rear Springs of about upto 30 % Stiffer, say 7/8" Front anti roll bar ,15"x6" Wheels and say 215-65-15" that the removal of the rear sway bar after setting up the car as good as possible ,that the general feel of the car entering & exiting a corner is more stable ,able to get the power down more smoothly, the weird thing is that once one get's some real power & goes to say Hoosier or Advan Sticky Dot radials the whole deal changes and an Anti Roll bar can help a little with less understeer less ploughing, it's really a personal thing & so many things come into play.

If one puts some Anti Squat into the rear end then a Rear Anti Say Bar is a hindrance to the car, that is unless one is making real good power near the 400 HP mark, I have come to the conclusion that for each car one should try both with & without, if I'm not being very clear about this topic it's because after all these years I still go both ways, we were using Hoosiers but the cost for those is too much in OZ, now we have gone to Yokohama Advans and I have fitted the rear Anti Sway Bar, I will tell you what I think after this weekend, although I have done some other things too, I will get some feed back from the seat of my pants and also the all important Time Keepers.

I would love to have some state of the art onboard Computer to asses what the.. is going on, lot's of old timers here have sought some new hi tec expert help and most have gained from the big $ outlay, maybe some day I will go that way but until I get beaten too often my Butt is stil reading the picture OK.

I was not going to be here on the List until after the race weekend but I thought I would just have a peek after getting that nifty e mail saying Warren has posted, great List this is but it's going to be hot.

no spell check it's late, besides you Guys & Gals think we spell weird,so who cares it's not important I can spell Jguwar.

Regards

Terry Handley

Bathurst Australia

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: Terry, g'day Mate!

: It's a pleasure to see you pop up here! (They'll have to change the name

: from Jaguar Clubs of North America to Jaguar Clubs of the

: Whole World if this sort of thing keeps up!)

: I was thinking of you the other day, and wondering what your take would

: be on running an E-Type without the rear anti-roll bar when the car

: was set up with uprated torsion bars and springs and a heavier front

: anti-roll bar. I took mine off a few months ago, and vaccilate

: between thinking it's an improvement, and wondering whether I've made

: a mistake. Any thoughts?

: Regards,

: Warren Hansen

: 70 FHC "Silver Bolide"



Re: XKE Sway Bar (wasPleasant Suprise)

Warren Hansen
*

forum user since

 

: HI! Warren,

: Have not chatted with you for some time, guess you have been enjoying

: another List.

: Many Jag enthusiast all over the world but you Americans have probably

: the most and you certainly now have a great List for which all true

: enthusiasts can enjoy.

: I'm hoping to get over sometime and try and meet all those I have gotten

: to know from various Lists, how could one do that, maybe a Jag Shoot

: Out @ .... where would be a central part of the US ?

: Removal of the rear Sway Bar, funny you should raise that, I have just

: refitted a Rear Sway Bar to our E Race Coupe, I remember a couple of

: years ago suggesting to Listers on another List that they should try

: removing the rear sway bar.... Well that was received with some

: sceptism.

: It really depends on many things as to if one should or should not,I

: can't come up with any Rocket Science stuff right now but in short

: the Rear Anti Sway Bar works fine on standard cars with std. wheels

: but once one starts upgrading the suspension on an E type things

: change dramatically & not always for the best as one would assume

: by fitting lot's of shiny bits to the suspension.

: Mostly I have found that by removing the anti sway bar from the rear of

: an E Type with upto 285 real Hp, Stiffer Front Torsion Bars and

: uprated Rear Springs of about upto 30 % Stiffer, say 7/8" Front

: anti roll bar ,15"x6" Wheels and say 215-65-15" that

: the removal of the rear sway bar after setting up the car as good as

: possible ,that the general feel of the car entering & exiting a

: corner is more stable ,able to get the power down more smoothly, the

: weird thing is that once one get's some real power & goes to say

: Hoosier or Advan Sticky Dot radials the whole deal changes and an

: Anti Roll bar can help a little with less understeer less ploughing,

: it's really a personal thing & so many things come into play.

: If one puts some Anti Squat into the rear end then a Rear Anti Say Bar

: is a hindrance to the car, that is unless one is making real good

: power near the 400 HP mark, I have come to the conclusion that for

: each car one should try both with & without, if I'm not being

: very clear about this topic it's because after all these years I

: still go both ways, we were using Hoosiers but the cost for those is

: too much in OZ, now we have gone to Yokohama Advans and I have fitted

: the rear Anti Sway Bar, I will tell you what I think after this

: weekend, although I have done some other things too, I will get some

: feed back from the seat of my pants and also the all important Time

: Keepers.

: I would love to have some state of the art onboard Computer to asses

: what the.. is going on, lot's of old timers here have sought some new

: hi tec expert help and most have gained from the big $ outlay, maybe

: some day I will go that way but until I get beaten too often my Butt

: is stil reading the picture OK.

: I was not going to be here on the List until after the race weekend but

: I thought I would just have a peek after getting that nifty e mail

: saying Warren has posted, great List this is but it's going to be

: hot.

: no spell check it's late, besides you Guys & Gals think we spell

: weird,so who cares it's not important I can spell Jguwar.

: Regards

: Terry Handley

: Bathurst Australia

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Terry,

I'm glad to see that you have the same on-again-off-again attitude that I do on this subject! I guess I'll leave it off a littl while longer, until I get a few Autocrosses under my belt for this season, and then try it back on and see.

Regards,

Warren Arthur Hansen

[I spell it JAG-WAH}




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