How to Re-Vitalize JCNA Rally Program

Started By: Brian Blackwell on 2004-10-21 18:43:37

Want to create a new string of discussion in this forum concerning the JCNA Rally program. Road rallies are neither difficult, nor mystical in any way, and we should use these cars to develop rally skills equal or superior to that of any marque on this continent.

Some ideas I have been exchanging with the committee serve to address past AGM directives, but not exclude other options. Here are some ideas that arep posted on for comments from the general membership, and to stimulate discussion.

A. Two Divisions within the Program - Time, Speed, Distance and Monte Carlo.
B. Beginning with two, running up to as many as four Classes within each Division, based on equipment. From the Great American Race style format voted in at the 2004 AGM, to at least factory stock trip computers. GPSÆs and such are only being considered at this time. The numbers of the classes can be remembered by the number of instruments available to the rallye team. This table is very preliminary and has not been sent around yet.

Division TSD Monte Carlo
Great Amer. Race (Speedo only) T1 M1
Speedo/Odometer T2 M2
Stock Trip Computers T3 M3
To be Determined T4 M4

C. A standardization of the Rally program rulebook format and structure to match that of the Concours program rulebook. A table is provided below that compares the Concours structure to the propose Rally Rule book structure.

Scoring with time, versus average top 3, or max total of points is a subject for discussion.

Let us all know what you think.

Brian Blackwell
JCNA Rally Committee
San Antonio JC



Can you explain the difference between TSD and Monte Carlo?

One comment... participation in rallies is usually pretty low so with a number of class we're going to end up with 1 or 2 cars per class in most cases.

Pascal Gademer
South Florida Jaguar Club

TSD stands for time, speed, and distance of course, but in short, you are given the route and the prescribed speeds, and you do not know the ideal time over the entire route. Some TSD rules give up to all of the ideal times up front. Monte Carlo rallies give you the end point and the ideal endpoint time, and you determine your own route. You kind of run one or the other as either one gives the unknowns to the other type of rallyist.

Brian Blackwell
San Antonio JC

oh that's right... thks for the reminder !

one question, I know that in a TSD you often do not know where the checkpoints are, at least some of them are surprises to make sure competitor stay on time... what about in a monte carlo? I guess there are no such thing as surprise check points since you decide your route?

hmmm that's more fun... you dont' have to be stuck at 30mph :-)

Monte Carlo seems easier for newcomers or navigators who don't want to spend the whole rally computing time and speed.

Pascal Gademer
South Florida Jaguar Club
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